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« Одговори #1755 на: 27 Септември 2012, 10:53:32 am »
Amaterstvo?
Tomy...koj moderen film so boks ima po "profesionalno " prikazani borbi?

The Fighter?
Cinderella Man?
Warrior?
Undisputed?

Iako se ova novi filmovi, borbite se na isto nivo ili ponisko nivo....pogotovo Fighter..kade sum se smeel na gardot na Marki Mark i nacinot na koj "glumi" bokser.

Ova e klasika druze...wheter you like it or not:


Od Druga strana Ivan Drago ( Dolph Lundgren) ne slucajno ima pravilen footwork, udari i gard.



I uste nesto:

It is not the first time the actor has been hurt during filming. Stallone was also badly hurt by Dolph Lundgren when he filmed Rocky IV.

He said: 'Dolph and I always went for it. I gave him orders to try to knock me out while the cameras were rolling. At one point, he hit me so hard on the head I felt my spine compress.

'He then hit me with an almighty uppercut. That night my chest started to swell, and I had to be helicopter-ambulanced from my hotel to a nearby emergency room.
 
'I was told that Dolph had punched my rib cage into my chest, compressing my heart. If it had swollen any more, I would have died.

'After that, I was like, "Dolph, it's only a movie, bro."'



Anything else?

« Последно менување: 27 Септември 2012, 11:21:12 am Stratro »

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« Одговори #1756 на: 27 Септември 2012, 11:20:35 am »
Абе Стратре шо се мучиш, Роки бил и ќе остане легенда...

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« Одговори #1757 на: 27 Септември 2012, 11:21:50 am »
Stratro...

Rocky Balboa
This is a bit of a cheat, because, quite frankly, the boxing in all the Rocky films is horrible and completely counterfeit. With all that in mind, it still does not take away from the baddassness of watching a 60-year-old Sylvester Stallone beat down (and get beat up) by an in-his-prime Antonio Tarver. Their final showdown is fun, brutal, and nostalgic in all the best ways. Sure, some serious boxing Hollywood liberties are being taken here (Lesson 1: If your glove touches the mat, then it’s considered a knockdown), but damn if it ain’t great to see The Rock give it one final go.


На другата страна, и не ми се верува дека не ги спомна 2-та култни филма кога е во прашање old school fighting, но:

Raging Bull

We’re nearing the end and you may have noticed something: all of the films I’m highlighting are relatively new. There’s no The Harder They Fall, no Somebody Up There Likes Me, no Champion – and that’s for good reason. When you talk about the authenticity of boxing in film, there is before Raging Bull, and after Raging Bull. Before Martin Scorsese made his masterpiece, every boxing scene in every movie was utter crap. The actors never hit each other, the sound effects were seriously overblown… it just didn’t work. Then Scorsese came along and did two things that changed the game: he did whatever the hell he wanted, and he never left the ring.

The fighting scenes in Raging Bull are 100 percent style, which should in no way work. Scorsese implored slow motion, sped-up motion, far too much blood, and, hell, he even changed the damn size of the ring to fit whatever vision he had. But he did it without leaving the ring. I cannot think of a single film other than Raging Bull in which, during the boxing scenes, the camera never steps outside of the ring. Yes, once Jake La Motta and his brother Joey have their disastrous falling out, Scorsese cross-cuts Jake’s most brutal fight with Joey’s reaction watching it from home, but the point is that Raging Bull broke the rules and changed the game. It’s a film that will be remembered as long as there are films.

Ali
Funny that I find the narrative depiction of a fight to be more enthralling than the actual depiction of the same fight, but hey, sometimes art imitates life better than life itself. Look, I know Michael Mann’s biopic has its fair share of detractors, but I simply love everything about this film, and if we’re only focusing on the fighting, then it is a goddamn masterpiece.

Putting expert cinematographer Emmanuel Lubezki to the test in ways he hadn’t been before, the boxing in Ali is shot using a multitude of methods. Gorgeous widescreen, gritty handheld, sparsely (but effectively) implored slow motion – everything about the style of the boxing scenes here works. But that’s just the look, there’s certainly a lot more going on here, most notably Will Smith’s epic incarnation of one (if not the) most famous athletes of all time. Smith put on the pounds, he packed the attitude, and he nailed Ali’s unique style of fighting. Everything about his performance works.

While I love the many fight scenes in Ali, specific respect must be paid to Mann’s retelling of The Rumble in the Jungle, in which he practically shows the Ali/Foreman bout in real time. I’ve studied that real life fight. It’s something I’ve watched over and over and over (it can easily be found on YouTube, like here for instance), and watching the real fight back-to-back with Mann’s version of it is clear evidence of a guy doing his homework. Every punch, every sidestep, every grimaced face – Mann carried it through with accuracy, effect, and respect. For a boxing fan, there’s simply nothing better.

Благодарам, и пријатно.

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« Одговори #1758 на: 27 Септември 2012, 11:29:04 am »
кажете некоја страшно добра комедија

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« Одговори #1759 на: 27 Септември 2012, 11:35:16 am »
Stratro...

Rocky Balboa
This is a bit of a cheat, because, quite frankly, the boxing in all the Rocky films is horrible and completely counterfeit. With all that in mind, it still does not take away from the baddassness of watching a 60-year-old Sylvester Stallone beat down (and get beat up) by an in-his-prime Antonio Tarver. Their final showdown is fun, brutal, and nostalgic in all the best ways. Sure, some serious boxing Hollywood liberties are being taken here (Lesson 1: If your glove touches the mat, then it’s considered a knockdown), but damn if it ain’t great to see The Rock give it one final go.


На другата страна, и не ми се верува дека не ги спомна 2-та култни филма кога е во прашање old school fighting, но:

Raging Bull

We’re nearing the end and you may have noticed something: all of the films I’m highlighting are relatively new. There’s no The Harder They Fall, no Somebody Up There Likes Me, no Champion – and that’s for good reason. When you talk about the authenticity of boxing in film, there is before Raging Bull, and after Raging Bull. Before Martin Scorsese made his masterpiece, every boxing scene in every movie was utter crap. The actors never hit each other, the sound effects were seriously overblown… it just didn’t work. Then Scorsese came along and did two things that changed the game: he did whatever the hell he wanted, and he never left the ring.

The fighting scenes in Raging Bull are 100 percent style, which should in no way work. Scorsese implored slow motion, sped-up motion, far too much blood, and, hell, he even changed the damn size of the ring to fit whatever vision he had. But he did it without leaving the ring. I cannot think of a single film other than Raging Bull in which, during the boxing scenes, the camera never steps outside of the ring. Yes, once Jake La Motta and his brother Joey have their disastrous falling out, Scorsese cross-cuts Jake’s most brutal fight with Joey’s reaction watching it from home, but the point is that Raging Bull broke the rules and changed the game. It’s a film that will be remembered as long as there are films.

Ali
Funny that I find the narrative depiction of a fight to be more enthralling than the actual depiction of the same fight, but hey, sometimes art imitates life better than life itself. Look, I know Michael Mann’s biopic has its fair share of detractors, but I simply love everything about this film, and if we’re only focusing on the fighting, then it is a goddamn masterpiece.

Putting expert cinematographer Emmanuel Lubezki to the test in ways he hadn’t been before, the boxing in Ali is shot using a multitude of methods. Gorgeous widescreen, gritty handheld, sparsely (but effectively) implored slow motion – everything about the style of the boxing scenes here works. But that’s just the look, there’s certainly a lot more going on here, most notably Will Smith’s epic incarnation of one (if not the) most famous athletes of all time. Smith put on the pounds, he packed the attitude, and he nailed Ali’s unique style of fighting. Everything about his performance works.

While I love the many fight scenes in Ali, specific respect must be paid to Mann’s retelling of The Rumble in the Jungle, in which he practically shows the Ali/Foreman bout in real time. I’ve studied that real life fight. It’s something I’ve watched over and over and over (it can easily be found on YouTube, like here for instance), and watching the real fight back-to-back with Mann’s version of it is clear evidence of a guy doing his homework. Every punch, every sidestep, every grimaced face – Mann carried it through with accuracy, effect, and respect. For a boxing fan, there’s simply nothing better.

Благодарам, и пријатно.


^ Ova spored kogo? (nekojsi) Alex Withrow?
Koj od filmovive e dobitnik na Oskar?

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/at-the-movies/a344802/top-10-boxing-movies-of-all-time-rocky-raging-bull-ali-more.html

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« Одговори #1760 на: 27 Септември 2012, 11:46:31 am »
кажете некоја страшно добра комедија

Rocky 1- бесконечност

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« Одговори #1761 на: 27 Септември 2012, 12:08:10 pm »

^ Ova spored kogo? (nekojsi) Alex Withrow?
Koj od filmovive e dobitnik na Oskar?

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/at-the-movies/a344802/top-10-boxing-movies-of-all-time-rocky-raging-bull-ali-more.html

Листава која ја линкуваше ги рангира филмовите во целина, не професионалноста на боксувањето. Дај таква листа каде што Rocky е пред Raging bull на Скросези, и пред Ali ...
Даље, и The Hurt Locker доби Оскар... Значи ли тоа дека е добар филм?
Леонардо Ди Каприо нема добиено Оскар... Значи ли тоа дека не е добар актер?

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« Одговори #1762 на: 27 Септември 2012, 12:10:48 pm »
Оскар одамна не е ни оддалеку релевантен за квалитетот на некој филм, режисер или актер.
The numbers thing, the how-fast-can-we-drag-race-a-bunch-of-cars, is the realm of people who think more is better, not better is better. - Matt Hardigree, Jalopnik.

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« Одговори #1763 на: 27 Септември 2012, 12:11:31 pm »
Ja ne go osporuvam Raging Bull ili Ali...samo tvrdam deka Rocky e na isto nivo, a spored mnogumina i nad niv.
Oskarot za best picture e samo bonus deka ne zboram na pamet

Оскар одамна не е ни оддалеку релевантен за квалитетот на некој филм, режисер или актер.

Tocno..
Pokraj Chicago, Broadback Mountain i Hurt Locker...oskarite vo poslednive godini nemaat vrska.
No tuka zborime za 1976.

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« Одговори #1764 на: 27 Септември 2012, 12:30:53 pm »
абе која приказна ја има Роки бе,
на брат му, му ја скршија кичмата, само овој нема брат

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« Одговори #1765 на: 27 Септември 2012, 13:04:48 pm »
абе која приказна ја има Роки бе,
на брат му, му ја скршија кичмата, само овој нема брат



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« Одговори #1766 на: 27 Септември 2012, 13:13:18 pm »
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
The numbers thing, the how-fast-can-we-drag-race-a-bunch-of-cars, is the realm of people who think more is better, not better is better. - Matt Hardigree, Jalopnik.

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« Одговори #1767 на: 27 Септември 2012, 13:23:15 pm »
абе која приказна ја има Роки бе,
на брат му, му ја скршија кичмата, само овој нема брат




баш сликава е најдобра критика за Роки од еден до ниеден...жално

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« Одговори #1768 на: 27 Септември 2012, 15:08:30 pm »
Иван Драго го брани Роки ;D ;D

и ако не ви се гледа Роки, не го глејте... свашта

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« Одговори #1769 на: 27 Септември 2012, 15:22:04 pm »
абе не се убедуваме кој шо да гледа, работава излезе несмеам да речам дека филмот е тешка бљувотина, ке ме испука некој уше малце, па и глуп излегувам шо не ми се свиѓа.