BMW F30 335i xDrive M Sport

[andrejnaumovski]

Mnogu dobar bandasov.
Baram ovakvo nesto ama nikako da najdam kaj nas, za nadvor ne sum se zapnal.

Најдобриот фабрички за F30 (со исклучок на M Competition бандажите)

[andrejnaumovski]

Денес стигна едно пакетче



Афтермаркет термостат за уље од Mosselman, што произведуваат афтермаркет производи за БМВ и Мини. За разлика од обичниот што отвора на 110 Целзиусови, овој отвора на 85 и држи температура на масло од 95-105 степени што е многу подобро од сегашните 120. Плус ептен секси изгледа 😄:



Дополнително на термостатот, денес на царина стигна и нов хладњак за уље од CSF Race, што ќе се монтира во комбинација со термостатот и промена на уље, чим добијат залиха во Мега

[M3V8]

Mnoogu jako, ovoa za u vitrina e na za vo motor pof hauba tuka nekade blisku do shaltabla moze da se montira?

Kako izbra oil cooler, na nivniot sajlt gledam 6 universal sizes, ama nema nesto kako selektor da ukucas model.

Sto cekas od Mega, ulje, koe?

[andrejnaumovski]

Mnoogu jako, ovoa za u vitrina e na za vo motor pof hauba tuka nekade blisku do shaltabla moze da se montira?

Kako izbra oil cooler, na nivniot sajlt gledam 6 universal sizes, ama nema nesto kako selektor da ukucas model.

Sto cekas od Mega, ulje, koe?

Бар се гледа одма под хауба, не е скриен зад пластика 

Конкретно за CSF сајтот им е избагиран, имаат специфичен модел за F серија N55 - https://x-ph.com/csf-high-performance-race-spec-n55-oil-cooler/

Во Мега чекам Motul 300V Competition 5W-50, после консултација со CSF и споредување на вискозноста на ниски и високи температури на ова и на 5W-40 масла (300V и Ravenol-от) и фактот дека сакам сериозно да ѝ кренам коњажа заклучокот беше дека конкретново 5W-50 ќе биде повеќе од доволно добро за да подмачка на ладен старт додека под високи температури ќе има далеку подобри својства на подмачкување (HTHS од 5.0). SAPS содржината му е маалце повисока од Ravenol-от ама ништо страшно (0.9% наспрема 0.8%).

[M3V8]

Interesno ulje si nasol 
Samo primetiv slednovo:
-Nema BMW approval, sto nemora da znaci nisto loso ama ubavo bi bilo da go ima.
-Pour point od samo -45 sto e dosta "slabo" za PAO/ESTER ulje. Poise lici deka na HC mi stavile malce ester.
Sekako me vlece da go probam

Bi rekol teka so ovoka kompletiran setup spremen si za track day. Za kade se spremas?

A so diskovi/plocki kako stois?
Jas se mislam za Zimmerman Sport Z za diskovi, a za plocki istrazuvam.
Mozda kvalitetna keramika deka mene mi e za samo povremeni "ispadi" na keif.

[andrejnaumovski]

Interesno ulje si nasol 
Samo primetiv slednovo:
-Nema BMW approval, sto nemora da znaci nisto loso ama ubavo bi bilo da go ima.
-Pour point od samo -45 sto e dosta "slabo" za PAO/ESTER ulje. Poise lici deka na HC mi stavile malce ester.
Sekako me vlece da go probam

Bi rekol teka so ovoka kompletiran setup spremen si za track day. Za kade se spremas?

A so diskovi/plocki kako stois?
Jas se mislam za Zimmerman Sport Z za diskovi, a za plocki istrazuvam.
Mozda kvalitetna keramika deka mene mi e za samo povremeni "ispadi" na keif.

Да, нема BMW approval ама ги задоволува сите LL01 барања и скоро сите LL04 (ради SAPS содржината, LL04 е C3 со <=0.8%), и го читав по форуми дека многу го користат во истиов мотор тјуниран и дека им работи супер.

Во однос на составот, од сѐ што најдов во официјалните спецификации и по форуми на интернет, 300V користи целосен ester base, така да не сум сигурен.

Ја спремам од мерак искрено, секое возење на отворено со неа ми е кеиф и сакам да видам до кај можам да ја истерам без да чепкам internals. Мислам дека 400 коњи може reliably да ги издржи со нов интеркулер и турбина. Со тоа што софтверите за мапи што ги гледам и двата имаат опција за on the fly менување на мапа од препрограмирани 4, така да една секако ќе си оставам stock за лабави возења

За кочници, најверојатно ќе менувам целосно со M Performance brake kit - 370ки напред, 345ки назад, 4 клипа напред, 2 клипа назад, целосно Brembo производство. За плочки се мислам за EBC Redstuff или Yellowstuff

[M3V8]

Kaj uljeto mi se sviga toa so ima saps 0.9, znaci moderen paket na aditivi i podobro za DI motor.
Za pour point ulja na PAO baza imaat od -50 do -60 pa zatoa me zamisli ovoa -45.
Neznam kako e za ESTER baza. Inaku sekako ne e full ESTER nitu PAO. Dodavaat vo odredeni procenti praat nekoj mix.
A od poznative brendovi sem MOTUL ne sum sretnal nekoj drug da go koristi, dobro e dur go ima.

Koja e ocekuvana cena na 300kata vo MEGA?

Merkav na vremeto EBC ama ne se odluciv poradi razlicni iskustva po forumi. Se mislev pomegu Green i Red.
Ajde ako probas so red ke spodelis iskustva mada setapot ke da ti e za yellow:)
Vidi dali bi mozelo da se najdat HAWK performance dosta gi falat.
Mada gledam tebe ne ti e problem se da nabavis

[M3V8]

Eve edno interesno cetivo za Yellow vs red, valjda ne e problem ako go postiram.
"
When I bought the car it had OEM pads fitted with OEM fluid. They were fine. Stopped the car OK but nothing write home about. A bit dusty but with a heavy'ish car and big brakes, I was not surprised. Did get brake fade when hammering around the Somerset countryside and a couple of track days but not bad for an OEM pad and fluid. The fronts were eventually destroyed on a track day (the rear still had plenty left). The tyres were finished too so I changed from Hankook Ventus to Yoko V105S.

(BTW Yoko V105's are dreamy! I recommend them to everyone

I then decided to replace the fronts with Yellow stuff and change to Motul 600 brake fluid. The Yellows were in a different league in terms of stopping performance. OK braking when cold with good initial bite. Perfectly acceptable and not dangerous as I have read. Face tearing when hot especially when combined with the Yoko's! But OMG the dust! No squealing when hot or cold. The pedal was not particularly positive in feel though. It felt a tad soft. Now you might say air in the system, but it was properly bled and being a soft pad it made sense. Much less fade than before but I put this down to the Motul fluid. Having done 6 months of driving, 6-7000 miles and a couple of trips to the Welsh mountains, the fronts and back pads were now finished.

I was surprised the fronts had not lasted longer but again, being a soft pad, heavy car, big brake combination, I understood. Expensive though!!

So then I decided to go to Redstuff for the front and rear. I wanted a pad with less dust and that would- in theory- last longer than the Yellows. I was also willing to sacrifice some braking performance for longevity of the pad.

The Reds are great. Much less dust than Yellows. I would also say less than OEM pads too (subjective). The braking performance is pretty close to the Yellows but the pedal feel is so much better. It's much firmer and gives more feedback, which enables better modulation. I really have to stamp on the pedal to achieve full braking force (a positive in my book). With the Yoko's fitted, the grip is stunning and it's hard to get the ABS to kick in. I get the feeling our cars have less servo assist that I've been used to in the past, or it could just be that my BMW weighs around 300KG more than my previous Alfa Romeo?!!

They work well from cold with very good initial bite. Get them hot and they work even better. They are lasting much longer than the Yellows too! There is some slight squealing at very low speeds when cold, but this is to be expected from a ceramic compound pad.

Conclusions:

Yellowstuff-
Work OK from cold (perfectly safe)
Amazing when hot
Short life span
High dust
Soft pedal feel

Redstuff-
Work well from cold
Brilliant when hot
Longer life span
Low dust
Slight low speed squeal
Very firm pedal feel

I will buying the Redstuff again.....and again. Thanks for reading. Apologies there are no pretty pictures!
"

[andrejnaumovski]

Eve edno interesno cetivo za Yellow vs red, valjda ne e problem ako go postiram.
"
When I bought the car it had OEM pads fitted with OEM fluid. They were fine. Stopped the car OK but nothing write home about. A bit dusty but with a heavy'ish car and big brakes, I was not surprised. Did get brake fade when hammering around the Somerset countryside and a couple of track days but not bad for an OEM pad and fluid. The fronts were eventually destroyed on a track day (the rear still had plenty left). The tyres were finished too so I changed from Hankook Ventus to Yoko V105S.

(BTW Yoko V105's are dreamy! I recommend them to everyone

I then decided to replace the fronts with Yellow stuff and change to Motul 600 brake fluid. The Yellows were in a different league in terms of stopping performance. OK braking when cold with good initial bite. Perfectly acceptable and not dangerous as I have read. Face tearing when hot especially when combined with the Yoko's! But OMG the dust! No squealing when hot or cold. The pedal was not particularly positive in feel though. It felt a tad soft. Now you might say air in the system, but it was properly bled and being a soft pad it made sense. Much less fade than before but I put this down to the Motul fluid. Having done 6 months of driving, 6-7000 miles and a couple of trips to the Welsh mountains, the fronts and back pads were now finished.

I was surprised the fronts had not lasted longer but again, being a soft pad, heavy car, big brake combination, I understood. Expensive though!!

So then I decided to go to Redstuff for the front and rear. I wanted a pad with less dust and that would- in theory- last longer than the Yellows. I was also willing to sacrifice some braking performance for longevity of the pad.

The Reds are great. Much less dust than Yellows. I would also say less than OEM pads too (subjective). The braking performance is pretty close to the Yellows but the pedal feel is so much better. It's much firmer and gives more feedback, which enables better modulation. I really have to stamp on the pedal to achieve full braking force (a positive in my book). With the Yoko's fitted, the grip is stunning and it's hard to get the ABS to kick in. I get the feeling our cars have less servo assist that I've been used to in the past, or it could just be that my BMW weighs around 300KG more than my previous Alfa Romeo?!!

They work well from cold with very good initial bite. Get them hot and they work even better. They are lasting much longer than the Yellows too! There is some slight squealing at very low speeds when cold, but this is to be expected from a ceramic compound pad.

Conclusions:

Yellowstuff-
Work OK from cold (perfectly safe)
Amazing when hot
Short life span
High dust
Soft pedal feel

Redstuff-
Work well from cold
Brilliant when hot
Longer life span
Low dust
Slight low speed squeal
Very firm pedal feel

I will buying the Redstuff again.....and again. Thanks for reading. Apologies there are no pretty pictures!
"

Нема проблем никаков, можда треба и Redstuff да се размислат дефинитивно. Уште не сум стигнат до таму така да има време. Напролет најверојатно

[andrejnaumovski]

Eve edno interesno cetivo za Yellow vs red, valjda ne e problem ako go postiram.
"
When I bought the car it had OEM pads fitted with OEM fluid. They were fine. Stopped the car OK but nothing write home about. A bit dusty but with a heavy'ish car and big brakes, I was not surprised. Did get brake fade when hammering around the Somerset countryside and a couple of track days but not bad for an OEM pad and fluid. The fronts were eventually destroyed on a track day (the rear still had plenty left). The tyres were finished too so I changed from Hankook Ventus to Yoko V105S.

(BTW Yoko V105's are dreamy! I recommend them to everyone

I then decided to replace the fronts with Yellow stuff and change to Motul 600 brake fluid. The Yellows were in a different league in terms of stopping performance. OK braking when cold with good initial bite. Perfectly acceptable and not dangerous as I have read. Face tearing when hot especially when combined with the Yoko's! But OMG the dust! No squealing when hot or cold. The pedal was not particularly positive in feel though. It felt a tad soft. Now you might say air in the system, but it was properly bled and being a soft pad it made sense. Much less fade than before but I put this down to the Motul fluid. Having done 6 months of driving, 6-7000 miles and a couple of trips to the Welsh mountains, the fronts and back pads were now finished.

I was surprised the fronts had not lasted longer but again, being a soft pad, heavy car, big brake combination, I understood. Expensive though!!

So then I decided to go to Redstuff for the front and rear. I wanted a pad with less dust and that would- in theory- last longer than the Yellows. I was also willing to sacrifice some braking performance for longevity of the pad.

The Reds are great. Much less dust than Yellows. I would also say less than OEM pads too (subjective). The braking performance is pretty close to the Yellows but the pedal feel is so much better. It's much firmer and gives more feedback, which enables better modulation. I really have to stamp on the pedal to achieve full braking force (a positive in my book). With the Yoko's fitted, the grip is stunning and it's hard to get the ABS to kick in. I get the feeling our cars have less servo assist that I've been used to in the past, or it could just be that my BMW weighs around 300KG more than my previous Alfa Romeo?!!

They work well from cold with very good initial bite. Get them hot and they work even better. They are lasting much longer than the Yellows too! There is some slight squealing at very low speeds when cold, but this is to be expected from a ceramic compound pad.

Conclusions:

Yellowstuff-
Work OK from cold (perfectly safe)
Amazing when hot
Short life span
High dust
Soft pedal feel

Redstuff-
Work well from cold
Brilliant when hot
Longer life span
Low dust
Slight low speed squeal
Very firm pedal feel

I will buying the Redstuff again.....and again. Thanks for reading. Apologies there are no pretty pictures!
"

Нема проблем никаков, можда треба и Redstuff да се размислат дефинитивно. Уште не сум стигнат до таму така да има време. Напролет најверојатно

Инаку сега најдов едно истражување, од тоа што видов Естер масла одат до кај -48C за pour point.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Pour-point-Flash-point-Viscosity-index-OT-SMT-and-Percentage-yield-of-synthetic-ester_tbl2_251717771

[M3V8]

Definitivno treba da se povozat dur seuste nekoj pravi ulja na Ester baza.

Razgledaj gi ovie Hawk plockive bas gi falat.

[andrejnaumovski]

Definitivno treba da se povozat dur seuste nekoj pravi ulja na Ester baza.

Razgledaj gi ovie Hawk plockive bas gi falat.

Ќе зирнам искуства и да видам кај може да се набават.

Иначе од 300V имаш и 5w30 Racing и 5w40 Competition, знам дека тоа го трошиш. 😁

[M3V8]

Ako najdes Hawk od kade pisi zaedno da naracame

Da super gi ima sega i tie gradacii od V300, citav intezivno otkako go spomna maslovo
Vika od 2021/2022 imaat nova paleta na 300V ester.
Ke probam edna tura sekako. Pa moze i 5W50 letno vreme ionaka menjam dve gradacii zimska/letna.
Imam izvozeno dve turi Xcess 0W40 i bev epten zadovolen.
Toa e prvoto maslo koe sam go smeniv otkako kolata izleze od garancija.
Od odma primetiv poubava pomirna rabota od fabrickoto BMW maslo i od togas veke ne koristam fabricko BMW maslo.

Barav od i mosselman termostat ama za mojava igracka od motor ne praat.
Od nova kolava mi prai stres sto ja drzi temperaturata na maslo na 120.
Neznam zosto e taka fabricki napraeno. Vo kombinacija so turboto pod hauba e pekol.
Treba da vidam od nekoja druga firma termostat, ili hjadljak za ulje so pojako ladenje.

[andrejnaumovski]

Ako najdes Hawk od kade pisi zaedno da naracame

Da super gi ima sega i tie gradacii od V300, citav intezivno otkako go spomna maslovo
Vika od 2021/2022 imaat nova paleta na 300V ester.
Ke probam edna tura sekako. Pa moze i 5W50 letno vreme ionaka menjam dve gradacii zimska/letna.
Imam izvozeno dve turi Xcess 0W40 i bev epten zadovolen.
Toa e prvoto maslo koe sam go smeniv otkako kolata izleze od garancija.
Od odma primetiv poubava pomirna rabota od fabrickoto BMW maslo i od togas veke ne koristam fabricko BMW maslo.

Barav od i mosselman termostat ama za mojava igracka od motor ne praat.
Od nova kolava mi prai stres sto ja drzi temperaturata na maslo na 120.
Neznam zosto e taka fabricki napraeno. Vo kombinacija so turboto pod hauba e pekol.
Treba da vidam od nekoja druga firma termostat, ili hjadljak za ulje so pojako ladenje.

Фабричкото од BMW е ребрендирано Шел моментално, моожда со некои мали измени. Океј ми е го имам и во Меганот ама дефинитивно може подобро. Следен сервис и на Меганот ќе му ставам од Мотулов, 5W-40ка.

Тоа со температурата ко што читав е ради потрошувачка, многу глупа работа, мотор од 3000 кубика со 300+ коњи му ставиле термостат за ефикасност истата глупост ја направиле и на S55ката во М3ката, па после на B58/S58 се поправиле. Ама тоа е.

[DarthJe5us]

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